Friendly Reminder... Need I say more?

Hey all,
Not to be a downer to a great season, but it seems like some of us are forgetting the fundamentals of safety.  I understand when the heat is on and people are jamming, however, we should be always mindful as we are ambassadors of cycling, not just the BCC.
Here is a friendly reminder from a driver that lives in the area. Thanks for taking the time to read this and ensure that we stay safe on the roads and respect the vehicles in an intersection. Thank you Heather for bringing this to our attention.
Dan.
Hello

I am contacting you because of my encounter with a large number of cyclists from your club, BCC.

I live in a rural area of Uxbridge township and many cycling clubs use our local roads as part of their training and riding routes. 

This past Monday a large group of cyclists was riding east on Webb road and not a single one of them stopped for the stop sign at the intersection of Webb and Concession 2. The group was travelling as a bloc, unlike the single file configuration which is recommended on your website. I did not mind being behind them as I was in no particular rush, but as you no doubt know, many drivers will pass even on a solid line, or on a hill,pass is very dangerous on a two-lane, hilly road. It is discouraging to see cyclists disregard the rules of the road, especially since they are the ones who are much more likely to be seriously injured in any kind of collision.

I would appreciate it if you would bring this situation to the attention of your members.

Heather Wolff

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Comment by chris andrews on September 2, 2014 at 8:58pm

Heather must have meant Sunday as on Monday all 6 of us went to Stouffville as the weather was miserable up there. She does however raise some good points.

I don't know the answer to them.

On lightly travelled secondary roads we tend to double up. On York Durham it is single file, but on Webb or 11th maybe not. It isn't really a problem to my mind, but the odd driver has acted aggressively in those circumstances.

Do we stop for all stop signs - no. Not even in Toronto. We aren't stupid either as someone checks the intersection before we proceed. I have not seen any instance where we knowingly or deliberately cut off any cars with the right of way.

I know these thing contradict club policy, but how much regulation do we want to conform to?

We don't want to give the club a bad reputation, but...

Also, how much risk are we willing to take given it is our health/lives at stake?

Comment by Dave Adams on September 2, 2014 at 10:30pm

Thanks Dan.   Good to bring to everyone's attention.   We all need reminding now and then.  

Comment by DY on September 3, 2014 at 7:51am

Hey Chris,

Single Lane, Single file.  Double Lane, Double paceline.  You are right, there are roads which are less travelled and allow us to use a double paceline on them.  I find on a lot if the rides that I have been on or been behind, that the double is not a tight double, rather is sloppy and there is either a widening or one rider out of the formation.

The onus and responsibility is of the riders in the rear of a group.  Since they are doing less work, they should be consistently checking behind for the safety of the group.  If there are any vehicles approaching or at and intersection, we have to abide by the rules.  This is how I manage my groups that I ride in.  OR  I roll ahead and do an intersection check.  I find this could be done more often than not.

On another note: a good example is our Tuesday Turbo rides.  We run double paceline on a double lane road, but sometimes there are parked cars and instead of slowing down and checking, we quickly single up to pass the car and regroup right after.  I don't see this kind of flow on many of the BCC groups, in fact, most groups don't shoulder check and just merge into the next lane which IS a huge concern.

Its not so much regulation, but just being mindful of others that don't necessary understand or care to understand the perspective of a cyclist.  Another way to help this driver/cyclist relationship is for the last riders in a group to wave thank you to drivers that have been waiting behind our groups.  It shows that we understand the perspective of the driver having to wait and keeps most calm.  Its a small gesture but I have found it goes a long way.

Does this make sense?

At the end of the day, we need to error on the side of caution and ultimately be vigilant in checking our surroundings more than we are used to. This will help non-cyclists be more kind to us and eliminate many potential altercations. 

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