Hope everyone had a good ride. One thing to note. If you're going to take a break - please let others know so there are riders(hopefully your friends) to help you get back to the main group. As the club leader, I feel obligated to wait for riders to keep the group together, the result, getting dropped. Hope the tarts were good - Happy Sunday. Till next week.



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Comment by DRU on July 25, 2010 at 1:11pm
It was a great ride. With the exception of losing our fearless leader, the group getting lost twice, getting split up three or four times and then bearing the responsibility for dragging everyone through the mud-bath on 10th line (my bad, sorry people). Props to Trish, you hung in there big time today!
Comment by Kerri on July 25, 2010 at 8:50pm
Dan, as everyone else has said, I feel awful for you being left back. We definately do need to make sure in the future that when you see someone waiting back for other riders that you communicate this up to the main group. If that doesn't happen, no one will know when, where or why someone is not continuing on, and in a case like today when there are two distance groups, the assumption is that the "missing" rider has gone with the other group. I have to say that my legs were toast by the time the rollers set in on our way to Goodwood, so was very thankful to have such good company to ride with and many thanks to Steve for all the good pulls along the way. Thankfully after Goodwood and closer to home the lactic acid had subsided enough to have some fun along the last stretch of Kingston and the Danforth. Until next time!
Comment by Steve Wolowich on July 26, 2010 at 9:37am
Not very BCC of us on Sunday. The start of the ride at 33/35 uphill on Kington Road from Birchmount was the first cue. We do not need to try and split up the group 8 minutes into the ride. Get off the front and go ride solo if you are so strong that you cannot control yourself for a brief warm up period. Lots of people not calling shit out, people jumping off the front from a light creating a really bad Yo Yo effect. And just general sloppy riding. Thats not BCC is it? And on the way back after the turn through the construction with deep soft wet mud. Not very BCC to slow and reform the group after that. With everyone strung out single trying to pass through wet sloppy mud, a mindfull group would have chilled after clearing that crap so that all could reform. We had guests on the ride with us this weekend. Riders from out of town. Non BCC riders who will take away a different opinion of the BCC. Shit happens and we have some bad days but lets try and not make that a regular event. Christ peoiple are afraid to go to the washroom now for fear of getting dropped! Yikes, is that what we have become?
Comment by DY on July 26, 2010 at 9:54am
Steve, it's true, but I think it's the fear of not getting dropped and also the knowledge that it's more work to ride the front. I don't think riders consciously think about it this way, but I've been trying to analyze how to make the group work better and I think I have it on the money.

See, we all have "a little extra" and being pulled along is a good feeling, a better feeling than being "dropped". Even though it's work, it is a different kind of work because someone else is setting the pace. On the flip side leading a group is quite difficult, cause you have to be in tuned with the riders behind you and make sure, they are all on. The sheer magnitude of the groups going out these weekends don't allow for the riders at the front to do that.

My suggestion, and it's been stated before is that riders break up into smaller groups and work together as a group. The pace will end up being more consistent and most time faster than you'd expect. The key is knowing your limits and not pushing past them.

There are so many skills/strengths etc. in the BCC and that's what makes the club rather unique. Limitations should not be put on anyone, rather, people should know their own limitations and work within them.
Comment by DY on July 26, 2010 at 10:33am
Thanks for the observation, Let's clean this up for next week.

Cheers,

Dan.
Comment by Peter Sutton on July 26, 2010 at 1:54pm
Steve's comments about the beginning of the ride are taken. I know at one point DRU and I spoke with the lead riders about the importance of calling out hazards. We could probably have done so a little earlier, but we did do it eventually. Ultimately, that's the best way of providing feedback (at the time, so that immediate action can be taken to correct/address an issue).

A couple of us pulled off at Taunton to ride a different route at a faster pace, so I don't know what happened on the way into/out of Goodwood. To the outsider, it sound like there was continuing communication issues within the group which is very unfortunate.

And Thi, I don't think Alex meant any disrespect to anyone. I believe that he was merely commenting that it would be helpful to specifically define - at the beginning of the ride - the period or distance over which the larger group would stay together before it splits into smaller groups.

I know Dan specifically addressed the possibility of the group not staying together on Sunday when, before we even started, he reminded everyone to ride within their abilities. However, what this meant in terms of staying together/splitting into smaller groups was not understood by the group, or was understood to mean different things within the group. As a result, we had people who felt they had to push too hard to stay with the group; at the same time, others believed that if the pace was too fast, separate groups at slower paces would form.
Comment by Peter Sutton on July 26, 2010 at 2:40pm
Okay, maybe Alex DID mean to be disrespecful... Shameful - I'm going to have to get Jamie to run you into the ground tonight (since I'm not good enough to do it myself)! :)
Comment by DRU on July 26, 2010 at 2:44pm
I'd like to take some of the heat for what happened yesterday. I know I personally made quite a few errors in judgment regarding turns/directions, pacemaking etc. For that, please accept my apology. I think I must learn at least a half dozen lessons every time I get on my bike... and another dozen by reading everyone's comments.

I think someone pointed out that race radios would be the best way to go. A tongue-in-cheek comment, true but as Peter said, it illustrates that these rides might be safer and more fun for everyone with a) smaller pace groups and b) better communication.

I also wanted to point out that a few positive things happened yesterday: First, everyone got home safely. Second, the first water/bathroom break was a good idea for obvious reasons and it also allowed some breathing room for a few people to catch back up. Third, despite the route mix-ups, everyone (except Dan, sorry buddy) found their own group and met up in Goodwood. And fourth, almost everyone (again, except Dan, and Michael, sorry fellas) came home with at least one other person. Andrew H. and Steve, you guys are true gentlemen.
Comment by DY on July 26, 2010 at 8:44pm
All good.... Lets bounce back, and try that again with a little route revamp.

D.

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