Had a great ride today and I hope everyone else did too. A small issue though that has happened before. A rider from mid pack pulls out and goes to the front to take over the lead. I don’t know what these guys are thinking (I’ve only seen guys do it). In all cases the existing rider doing the pulling didn’t need any help; they were doing just fine. And everyone in the group is entitled to a pull if they want it - it’s good experience. It’s also disrespectful/rude (in my opinion) to the lead rider (and no it wasn’t me). If you think the group is going too slow for you then choose a faster group next time, but while you are part of the group that day – please wait your turn.

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Comment by DY on July 12, 2014 at 6:18pm

Hey Chris,

Did you guys discuss this amongst your group when it happened?

Please let me know.



Comment by chris andrews on July 12, 2014 at 8:10pm

probably should have, but didn't (as far as I know)

Comment by DY on July 13, 2014 at 9:42am

Ok cool... Just not sure everyone in the club reads the blog...Maybe for next time.  Cool?  Thanks for bringing to attention.  Better to nip at the bud.



Comment by DY on July 13, 2014 at 10:49am
Andre, if that happens, you should deal with it right then and there, passing the lead riders, doesn't make it any better... I think that was Chris's point for posting.. I assumed that all BCC members have a mutual respect for each other by communicating on the ride. We all know this already ... No?

If not, I have failed in building the club as a club with a sense of community, camaraderie and respectful etiquette.
Comment by Mike McInnis on July 13, 2014 at 12:42pm

I haven't seen that happen, but I have seen people lead too long (and I've done it myself).  Most people want to 'do their share' and don't want to take a short shift even though sometimes it's better for themselves and the group.  It's ok to call out for a lead change - that might be a way for the leaders to feel ok about dropping back.

A lot of the groups that form have a range of fitness and I think it's better for the group if people with less fitness take shorter lead shifts (but still go hard), so they don't burn out.  If I'm a strong rider in a group, I'd rather do more pulling and have everyone 'finish with dignity', rather than have some riders do more pulling than they should and end up crashing and burning for the latter part of the ride which slows everyone down.

Comment by chris andrews on July 13, 2014 at 3:45pm

Actually this blog isn’t about riders taking too long at the front, slowing down and not pulling off – that’s really another issue. The lead riders in these cases were doing fine and in yesterday’s incident the new rider was no faster and didn’t last very long before he was passed by the group. This is about group riding etiquette or lack of.

As far as a lead rider who is slowing down, the second rider is better positioned to move up, communicate and take over the lead as required. I think we should also keep in mind that this is a riding club not a racing club and by that I mean it isn’t really about whether the average is 29.8 or 30.1. So within reason, it’s ok to cut some slack while people learn their limitations even if it can be a bit annoying at times. Most people do learn from experience. For example, I have noticed that riders who find themselves in over their head on the way up to Stouffville will chose a slower group to come back with.


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