Hey all,

Hope everyone had a good ride. I had Sarah, Charlene, and Jon at PUCC with me. We worked hard up to the coffee break in Stouffville. Nice to see you all at the coffee shop. Ride back was amazing. 40km/h+ coasting!!! With work 65km/h! Guess we got lucky this time. Usually, it's headwind both ways.

Till Next Week...

Dan.

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Comment by Peter Sutton on April 18, 2010 at 8:04pm
Apologies to the Grinder departure group - Peter Skalenda and I were on the clock, and we needed to get in a decent distance for our ride. We pulled everyone to Altona Road, but at that point we really needed to book it - we didn't even have time to stop at the rest point.

We heard a lot of grumbling when we took off on everyone (sorry - no choice!). Fortunately, it looks like you all managed fine without us and had a good time on the return trip, too. Peter and I both managed to get home just in time, though the return trip (with the tail wind) was a heck of a lot easier than the trip out!
Comment by DY on April 18, 2010 at 9:06pm
Did you pull? ;-)
Comment by DY on April 19, 2010 at 2:06pm
Michael,

Thought about the start time...... Half and Hour earlier = X many More Cars on the Road. My number one concern is exposure to cars and Safety of the Entire Group as a Whole. Thanks for the suggestion.

If you would like to start later, by all means, post on the comments when a discussion is started and I'm sure, others will post, if they would like to accompany you.

Glad Kerri and Steve waited as promised. Dave was in no condition to keep your pace as I twisted his arm to come out partying with me the night before. 4 hours sleep is not the best way to prepare for a Sunday ride.

IN THE FUTURE(for Everyone):
If you are not comfortable with the pace, chances, there are others that feel exactly the same way. Get a consensus, and break off to manage your group's own comfortable pace. It is too often the feeling of "getting dropped" gets in the way and one tries harder than they should. It is definitely NOT a way to get stronger as a rider. Don't do that to yourself and regret it later.
Comment by DY on April 19, 2010 at 8:23pm
Hey Everyone... Should have got someone to help organize. Sorry.

Won't happen again.

Dan.
Comment by Alexx Hooper on April 19, 2010 at 8:36pm
I totally agree, Peter, Dan. I would never expect the entire group to wait for me, and am always self-conscious about holding people up. This is a huge group with different abilities and goals. There are several ways to ensure that one rides with a group that is appropriate for one's comfort level:

Post if you will be coming for the ride. Most of us know the people that we are comfortable riding with. I look for people who ride approximately my speed and make sure that enough of my 'peeps will be on the ride to make for a comfortable, yet challenging ride. I decide on the distance that I feel like doing and see who's riding that distance that I think I can keep up with.

Communicate at the beginning of the ride and identify the people that you will aim to be riding with. As the pack starts to string out, try to form your pace group and ride together.

Always know the route. If you do get dropped, you won't have the panicky feeling of being lost. You'll probably catch up to another group or get picked up by a group behind you.

Basically, we should all respect the fact that people in the club have different goals and reasons for riding. I like that we have super-speedy guys who like to go all-out and hammer for the whole ride; I could never ride with them, but it's great to have someone to admire and root for at races! I also love that we have people of different speed levels - that way, we can all find our groups, and still challenge ourselves and improve together. I like that as a club, we look out for one another and root for each other along the way.

I hope this doesn't sound too hokey and flakey, but since the club IS so big now, let's try not to fracture into groups that are pissed off at each other for "taking off" on each other etc.,... there are enough people that we should all be able to find our place and fulfill our goals, and still sit around together and blab about our ride experiences at the coffee shop.

Sincerely, Flakey (and kinda slow) ole' Alexx.
Comment by DY on April 19, 2010 at 8:38pm
Should be:

"Sincerely, ALWAYS SMILING(not as slow as you think) ole' Alexx"

;-)
Comment by DY on April 19, 2010 at 9:33pm
Thanks for the input everyone. Lot of great points.

Few things:

1. I see lag which comes from stop/starts and the "accordion effect". Not everyone can get into their pedals quickly and safely. It causes a lag which when the numbers are increased put strain on riders that are not as strong.

2. Speed is also a scary thing when you are not used to it. It is/can be quite unnerving to be cruising 40km/h+ a foot behind someone you don't know. Keeping "your" safe distance can often lead you into a "drop effect" if you know what I mean. Once you get out of the draft and you're at your upper end of your limit, the result is you "get dropped".

3. I also noticed that we all try to "keep up". Remember that keeping up, means you have to know that you can keep up for the duration of the ride. Riding above your threshold for more than 30 mins creates a negative effect, which we have all experienced at least one time.

BOTTOM LINE: We are all out to have fun. But the fun levels, as stated above, are different. Only way anyone is going to know is if we communicate our intentions. Please try to let people around you know your intentions and the rides should run smooth.

I will be running clinics on Sundays - see postings. If you would like tips on riding in a group and "being efficient" on your bike, contact me and I can set up a lesson or e-mail you some tips. Riding smart can often be better than riding hard. That's how I am able to keep up with the "fast guys". ***Note: Once and a while(every Tuesday Night Ride) I get dropped, I admit. Oh, and you do have to have a certain level of fitness.

Do we need another beer night? ;-)
Comment by DY on April 20, 2010 at 1:33pm
You're the best Ian!!!!! 2 Hours sleep and pulling the group along. Almost like a certain someone I know(Emile the Train)!

Dan.
Comment by DY on April 20, 2010 at 10:44pm
Thanks Brian. Nice to have you as a member of the BCC.

Dan.
Comment by qb on April 21, 2010 at 8:27pm
My vote, as it was last year at this time is that groups go out in waves. Self selection is key, knowledge is power. Each rider figures out what they are capable of achieving for at least half the ride, when there is generally a regroup at a coffee shop. The fastest group goes first, anyone who wishes to push their capabilities knowing they don't belong in this group will go with them. The next fastest group then starts, and is now in a position to pick up anyone falling off the first group and then a final group begins. By setting out in this fashion, riders can try to push themselves each week knowing there is a safety blanket behind them. We can highlight speeds for each group recognizing that average expected speeds factor in lights etc, which means a rider needs to be able to ride at a speed 2-3 kms/hr faster on a sustained basis. For instance, a group at 32-34km/hr, one at 28-32km/hr and one at 25-28km/hr would capture 90% of the riders. Absolutely new riders to BCC or more importantly to riding a bike for 60-100 kms should not ride sundays until they have posted several saturdays and perhaps a few brimley hill climb sessions. This will help them acclimatize to riding in groups, getting their fitness level up and give them a better chance of hanging with the last group. Of course, knowing the route is extremely important, so if you should find yourself in a group of 2-4 stragglers, someone will know where they are going. There are solutions to catering to a large group and while we want to ensure we are inclusive, we also want to be a place where riders can push themselves to get better knowing there are only so many hours in a week and a 4 hour time slot is precious.

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